So Odin has been pronounced dead, any thoughts? I was kind of hoping that Loki didn't kill him only b/c I would have liked to see that crucial scene of confrontation and now I feel a bit cheated (srry if you answered this already)
//Odin’s death honestly doesn’t surprise me in the least. Sir Hopkins is really getting along in years and expressed his exhaustion with the franchise in an interview, and I am pretty positive Taylor said he decided on Odin’s death at the last minute, which I think has to do with the fact that Loki was initially going to die but Marvel got a brain cell and realized that Loki is possibly the most popular character in the fandom next to Tony Stark and a major money maker, leading to the rewrite of the ending which required some plot gymnastics—including Odin’s elimination.
I’m also not surprised because a) Odin went from being a semi-sympathetic, if misguided, father figure to a truly atrocious tyrant who was obviously driven mad with grief and going senile with his own inability to compromise with anyone or anything (including the idea of Thor being romantically involved with Jane Foster, Loki’s punishment, Frigga visiting Loki PHYSICALLY in prison, and Thor’s far wiser handling of the war with the Dark Elves). This means, in terms of meta, the writers intentionally set us up to feel minimal grief at his passing, and it means that Loki as a character would react to his once-father’s behavior very antagonistically. Ergo b) we’ve already seen Loki capable of patricide, long before he went through the suffering that twisted him into the sometimes-poisonous person that he now is, when he killed his birthfather Laufey.
In a way, it was necessary that Odin die for Loki’s character development to come full circle. Loki has killed both his father figures for the same offense: abandoning, and rejecting, him. But the difference is that he kille Laufey IN ORDER TO TRY TO PLEASE ODIN, and DECLARE HIMSELF AN ASGARDIAN RATHER THAN A FROST GIANT, but when he kills Odin, it’s to FREE HIMSELF FROM RELYING ON ANYONE FOR APPROVAL. This is bittersweet. The simultaneous tragedy and triumph (and I really think we are meant to feel both) of Odin’s murder is that it shows Loki finally liberating himself from a situation of emotional neglect, even abuse, at his father’s hands (“I could have done it, father, for you, for all of us” in film one vs. “I didn’t do it for [father]” in film 2) but he does so in such a way that it will surely, down the road, alienate him again from Thor, with whom he has finally reconciled. And Thor is and always has been Loki’s lifeblood (whether they love or hate each other, or both). Loki has declared victory in his own terms, with NO ONE but Odin suffering for it, but he has also shot himself in the foot yet again. Which, as Tom Hiddleston has perceptively put it, is sort of Loki’s eternal dilemma. He’s always destining himself to lose.
I don’t mind that we didn’t see Odin’s death personally, because showing his murder would detract from Loki’s antiheroic status and make him more of a villain again, when that’s territory we’ve already amply explored with the character. To be frank I’m pretty sure there was little else either Loki or Odin was willing to say (which is sad because they really did once love each other, despite the manifold mistakes Odin made as a father) and Loki probably made it quick just because he was pressed for time. What troubles me more is that we don’t see a definitive explanation for how Loki survived (or was resurrected) and furthermore for whether or not Odin’s life had something to do with some soul-bargaining that got Loki back in the land of the living (I would argue that, considering Hela is Loki’s daughter, it does).
The one thing that surprises me is I would have thought it poetic justice more in Loki’s style to imprison Odin in the same cell Loki had been in, disguised magically as Loki himself, while ruling. But maybe Loki thought it was too risky, even though it would have been a marvelous gloat.
I think those are all my (somewhat disjointed LOL) thoughts on the subject!
1. Before his star-turn as Loki, Hiddleston screen-tested for the role of Thor, even putting on 20 pounds of muscle, but director Kenneth Branagh felt he was more suitable for the role of the Loki. Which we’re totally fine with, by the way.
2. He does a mean impersonation of Shere Khan from “The Jungle Book.”
3. Hiddleston has said that if not for acting, he would have been a cowboy. If he had a horse, he’d name it “Balthazaar.”
4. After seeing contemporaries Gemma Arterton and Eddie Redmayne become successful prior, Hiddleston began to question if he would ever breakout as an actor. He’s admitted that his father even tried to persuade the highly-educated Hiddleston to be his “own man” rather than merely “pretending to be someone else.”
6. Hiddleston attended Eton College — a prestigious boarding school in England — with Prince William. Hiddleston and his classmates treated William like anyone else and, subsequently, he thinks of the prince as just another guy from school.
7. In January 2013, he traveled with UNICEF UK to Guinea, West Africa, to visit children, families, and communities. He continues to remain involved with the organization.
8. Jameson on the rocks is Hiddleston’s go-to drink. When asked about his favorite alcohol, Hiddleston told GQ UK, “When the nights draw in it’s nice to come home, tinkle a few ice cubes in a tumbler, pour a little Jameson in and watch a movie.”
9. He won “Best Newcomer” at the Laurence Olivier Awards in 2008, an esteemed honor that recognizes the best in London theatre.
10. Hiddleston played rugby at Cambridge University but gave it up to pursue his love of acting.
Watching Thor (for like the millionth time tonight) I’ve realized that during the opening ceremony, they purposely don’t show Loki until Odin talks about how the hammer is a perfect match for a king, looking as pissed and annoyed as usual. And then a few moments later, how impatient Loki looks. Then, again, silent gratification at Thor’s hurrumphing at going to Jotenheim.
IT WAS IN FRONT OF MY FACE THE WHOLE TIME THAT LOKI WAS IN ON IT AND I NEVER NOTICED